Translation of 'Getting started' page

Hi Jordi,

I will translate the page into German, but again there are the discussed differences in our approaches to contributors. When translating into German, I would not only translate the text, but also change some of the links it-selves. No answer will mean you agree :) During the session in Barcelona I tried to explain the different and more successful approach within DACH countries. International you address helpers and hubs in the first line, the German DACH-area donors, dootrippers and requester.

Some examples:

and so on...

The reason is simple: E.g. there are more people willing to donate a laptop than to tag and register it in our database. There are more people starting a request for a donation (this selection is missing in your list) than there are willing and able to create a new edoovillage entry in our data-base it-self. This has to be done with a new hub in a separate training, needs additional user rights etc.

Companies would talk about a more easy first level support (donor, dootripper, requester, contact us) and a more complex 2nd level support (hubs, branches, technicians/labdooers etc.). In German pages we try to offer fast access to 1st level (more often needed e.g. drop a laptop donation; bring a laptop to a project; start a new request for a project; contact us). Everything else is kept in the back for a 2nd level (more seldom and more complex; create a hub, a newsletter, a project, an event etc) not to confuse the visitors. Another point is that only very few users create their own account in DACH area. Most of them contribute, dootrip or contact us without creating an own account. And this page to be translated is only visible to users having creating there account (at least that is what I understood).

Now, looking at the remaining links in German for the 1st level - it is exactly our German landing page www.Labdoo.de with the 4 most important actions to be taken. So this new page you created is not needed in German!? But I do not want always to be the "bad guy" and as the international part of the project team is staying with their approach, I will try to find a synthesis of both philosophies... E.g. by putting the links related to 1st level on top of the German translation of your page and put the other links more below.

Sorry to answer with so much text for such a small translation job. But your request shows me that the DACH input Frank and me tried to transfer in Barcelona was not understood or there are reasons not to follow it. Anyway, I do not want to raise an old discussion again :) Only wanted to explain, why again there will be differences in a German page :)

I remember a discussion in Barcelona about a more ergonomic user interface of the web-site. I do not remember who it was. But may-be you think about this 1st and 2nd level approach?

Thanks, Ralf (Hub Rhein-Ruhr and D A CH countries)

sorry, I am confused. Where is this getting-started page going to reside? Under the "information for Labdooers", I hope?

I agree with Jordi that the purpose of Labdoo is way more than just collecting and delivering laptops, but I also agree with Ralf that we need to keep tasks as simple as possible, especially when you deal with teens. After working with many fantastic kids in past years on Labdoo. I realized providing too much information all at once at the beginning stage of their volunteering may be difficult to digest and since they are not professional workers like us who are used to processing multi-threaded tasks. Sometimes, it may result as a discouragement rather than an encouragement:)

Instead of adding an extra getting-started page, maybe we should focus on the homepage, point the icons to a brief explanation page before directing to the contact page (As suggested by Ralf). And we can translate the explanation to different major languages.

Thanks!

Thank you for the explanation, Jordi. I misunderstood your purpose of adding this page.
I like the current Labdoo home page and I understand you have very limited coding resources. I just took this request wrong and thought it's a replacement for the current landing page. And yes, it will be very helpful if the page is under my account -> getting started and users have the option to explore to it as they progress. A new question - Don't we need to have the majority referred linked pages to be translated first in order for this page's translation to be meaningful?

I also very agree the wiki page is better to be proofread by "a second person" before publishing it since it's difficult for us to catch our own grammatical mistakes. I don't contribute a lot of pages. All pages I added in were all proofread by at least one native English speaker, on top of proofreading myself. Yet, some of them still have many grammatical mistakes as you may find. But is it practical? Since I know majority of Labdoo wiki, may not be proofread by a second person, but are very important and informative (like this one https://www.labdoo.org/content/labdoos-corporate-social-responsibility-c... :)

Thanks so much again for the energy you spend on perfecting Labdoo website.

>I agree. I also think it is better to have a Getting started page pointing to English documents than having no Getting started page at all.
Totally agree. So we should have it, and in English, to keep consistent with the pages underneath it, right??

Regarding to wiki, I think we should encourage people publishing wikis but have a red flag statement somewhere in the page if it's not been proofread by a second person yet. So readers can still grab as much information as possible but not be intimidated by mistakes in the article. what do you think?